But she wouldnt do that. But dont we already have Catherine? And maybe the first time weve seen Bens guard down a little bit too, just in the expression of his emotion. I think he definitely saw her in a different light and I think Selinas legacy is a trail of sadness. "I remember I was outside the room watching the monitor, hearing her go 'Gary' and I couldn't move. MANDEL RESPONDS: Its interesting. When Gary is being taken away by the FBI, he fights it until he sees that shes aware of whats happening. Not sensing any approaching doom, Gary asked if she wanted coffee from across the street and pointed out that it was a chia seed in her mouth. [It was] both a combination of starting to think, Well, weve seen a lot of variations of that before, and also this sense of: in America people were behaving very, very badly and not being punished. Whats not in Garys bag. The idea being, there is at least one more Oscar in the next 24 years, along with the sequel to Philadelphia. Entertainment Weekly is a registered trademark of Meredith Corporation All Rights Reserved. [Mandel took over showrunning duties from creator Armando Iannucci after season 4.] This was a really [important] scene, and we wanted to make sure it gelled, so we worked on it in for a while to find the flow of it. It was very satisfying for him. You took over showrunning duties when Armando left after season 4 and kept up the Emmy-winning tradition. Gary disposed of a body for her. The betrayal and flash-forward outcome solidified Selinas monstrous transformation and yet, if you ask Hale, he has a surprising take on how it all played out. There was a moment when she was looking at Gary and you could see the sadness in her eyes for him, but she couldnt stop herself. Every single night he does it just to be prepared for the next day. Why was it so important that Gary would be doing something so Gary-like he picks a seed out of her teeth as they are having this final conversation? Was one of the messages of the finale, If you have been rooting for Selina all along, you chose very poorly, and were here to not-gently remind you of that?That is the wonderful thing. It was lovely that he came to New York for the premiere, and obviously, hes busy with [upcoming HBO space comedy Avenue 5]. Mandel imagines that Selina is haunted when shes alone and that in those moments of silence, she cries herself to sleep over Gary the most. Ben (Kevin Dunn) has been dead! But I kinda like the idea of finding out more, so well see what happens., ANALYZING THE ANSWERS/MANDEL RESPONDS: We read him a list of popular theories. I dont think she particularly wants to help the world. A Dan thats been to prison. It was a baby challenge to figure out where Dan should be. She wasnt completely disconnected. I do think Gary is a much better version of himself during that funeral, definitely. Captured and kidnapped by some sort of terrorist act and put in a room with Sarin gas, like Peter Quinn. His personal pick for a crossover? Daten ber Ihr Gert und Ihre Internetverbindung, wie Ihre IP-Adresse, Browsing- und Suchaktivitten bei der Nutzung von Yahoo Websites und -Apps. The truth is, shed done so many horrible things over the course of [the show], you had to dig deep to make it real. "I thought it was really interesting that everybody is in old-age makeup, everybody's looking rough, we're all really old, and the only one that is not in old-age makeup is Selina," says Hale. Because Selina doesn't go there very frequently. Her ending up with Ericsson [Diedrich Bader] is certainly a curveball, but it also feels like in the Veep world, wouldnt Dan and Amy wind up happily ever after?Its funny. The 45-minute propulsive finale didnt finish there, though; it jumped 24 years into the future, to Selinas funeral. So that was tricky. I only would be less interested if Trump was the writer. And that idea that comes up earlier in the season, which is her having to plan her own funeral which presidents do I honestly think we tried to jam that into the finale of season 5 when she was leaving the White House. Garys got a lot of secrets. When push comes to shove, shes a scorpion. "I wanted to say a word about sacrifice," she said. The very first Labor Day in the country was celebrated in 1882, and it became an official federal holiday in 1894. She could be a fierce fighter for womens rights and equality. Sydney Grullon spoke more generally: I dont think shes inherently awful, I think deep down she thinks what shes doing is good, at least what she was doing while in office. Prakram Bhushan, meanwhile, was incredibly specific: Selina is a good lover. Im a huge fan. Thatd be great. I didnt say it was Tom Hanks specifically but I said I hope he digs it because theres a pretty cool nod to the pilot. Mandel thinks Jamies read was correct: I think she only really tried to do good if she thought it was politically expedient. Julia Louis-Dreyfus., MANDEL RESPONDS: Hearing that last answer, Mandel can only laugh: Have our standards for what a president is dropped so far in the last two years that this is what were saying is good about Selina Meyer? But looking at the big picture I find that [two-thirds number] fascinating, because I think shes a horrible person! I think there was a mix of, he had blinders to it but there were also sometimes I dont think he necessarily understood it. The government shutdown episode. this link is to an external site that may or may not meet accessibility guidelines. But near the end of Sunday's series finale, it all came crashing down in the show's darkest moment. But the arbitrary rule all but . Then of course, like all bullies because she is a bully the best defense is a good offense. The finale had plenty of closure. TVLINE | I also read it as her being reminded of the lengths to which Garywould go to to protect her, kind of like, Oh, right. ", It was a playful and ideal wink to the very first episode, in which Mike attempted to console Selina about a gaffe by absurdly suggesting that maybe bigger breaking news could overshadow it: "What if Tom Hanks dies? Pam Grier reflects on her most iconic roles, from. Whatever happened earlier in the day where she made the push and obviously it didnt go, she was all in. Dies geschieht in Ihren Datenschutzeinstellungen. Then there was that look on Gary's face. I dont know quite what hes doing there, but its kind of wonderful., ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: Mandel admits some of his questions werent necessarily designed to be answered. How did you and Louis-Dreyfus approach how to play the scene? Politically-Correct Reaction: "Veep" focused on the unwanted secrets of its staff in "East Wing." Selina and Gary's Labor Day-set secret may have taken center stage, but plot threads . What conversations, if any, did you have with him about the ending and wrapping up the show?We saw each other at the premiere in New York. Below, in a chat with THR, Hale digs into the shocking events of the series finale, reveals how he and Louis-Dreyfus went about filming the scene, and offers up a take that might just helpVeep viewers sleep at night when they think about Garys fate. Your legacy lives on in your children and that is a prime example, where her daughter is celebrating her demise and her death. I dont want to say it was hard, but trying to exactly figure out: was it real estate or what for him? About half of those people, without provocation, also added that they'd like to know what was in the trash bag that Selina made Gary retrieve in Season 2's "Shutdown.". Thats what was so beautiful about the way Dave [Mandel] wrote and directed the episode. As for that Jonah scenario, Maybe Jonah could get tortured. The gut-punch of a betrayal played out in the present-day ending of Sunday's series finale, which then jumped ahead 24 years to former President Meyer's funeral. I looked at this as, Well, maybe this will snap him out of it. Maybe hell wake up to the abuse. Ideas? It went on the wish list. And that never came to pass. Lets start by cutting to an interview with Veep showrunner and finale writer/director David Mandel, who takes you inside Selinas savage send-off. Something serious mustve went down to silence Selina like that. "You don't have to worry," he said, pleasantly startled. I loved it, because it was obviously a salute to the show, but by the way, was also proving my point, Mandel says. "I need you to do something for me," she said, though he obliviously was more concerned with getting that chia seed out of her teeth. Why am I here? I think shes that kind of boss that would give you things to do, and before you even had 30 seconds to do it, shed be asking where it was, and then she would take it back from you and do it herself. We once played with an idea that when you jumped to the future and Richard was president, and he might have asked her to be his vice president in the future sort of a little bit of a gray-haired, foreign policy expert to his younger, more novice politician. I like to think its a credit to Armando [Iannucci, the shows creator] and the previous writers, and my current writers, that we can make you root for a terrible person. And then [theres] the ultimate decision to give it to Jonah, which in some ways is almost as bad as the Gary thing, and Im putting it, like, a hair less. From what I remember, I think we did the scene several times before the balloons. MANDEL RESPONDS: I think that speaks to whats going on in America, to the anti-intellectualization, he says. MANDEL RESPONDS: Sadly, I think theyre right, he says. We do spend a lot of time thinking about the fact that shes not 100 percent terrible at her job. It was not lasting remorse. Walsh was one of Meyer's closest confidants, having worked for Meyer from the time she was a congresswoman to her fourth presidential campaign. He certainly didnt deserve to go to jail, but what responsibility, if any, does he own for participating in this horrifically lopsided relationship?Boy, thats an interesting question. TVLINE | It was announced last week that your fearless leader,Armando Iannucci, would not be returning for the shows just-ordered fourth season. Selina Meyer and Gary Walsh, as dysfunctional as their relationship may be, are a beloved duo onVeep. DAVID MANDEL ASKS: Do you want to know what happened on Labor Day? I did what I was supposed to do. Sometimes you have to stand back and remind everybody that were playing a horrific scene, but your characters dont quite know how horrific it is. What makes it more horrific certainly on Garys part is how innocent and Gary-esque he is right until the end. But Hale says that the ultimate revenge may be Selina's, even from the grave. I mean, Dan is with who he wants to be. "It means to lose something. . And President Richard Splett is that expression of hope for the future. "I have this Forrest Gump-ian way of touching something and it becomes a hit!" It seemed that despite the betrayal, on some level, he will always hold a warped torch for Selina. Sort of a Biden to his Obama. MANDEL RESPONDS: "I didn't know the . Its so many things. Kent (Gary Cole) is a full-on hippie-raising alpaca but wants to focus on his watchmaking! By Labor Day, in the United States and Canada, holiday (first Monday in September) honouring workers and recognizing their contributions to society. Oh my God, he could end up as Its sort of like she had put it to bed and realizes now it could be even realer, and then realizing, Oh. But it really is impossible, he says. Andrew owns a large company, which is revealed to have funded both sides of the 2012 presidential election. We sort of got a little freaked out by what that meant, and Julia was in the middle of trying to get through to his agent, or any of those kinds of things, when all of a sudden, the response came back, and he was delighted and gave a big thumbs up. So, I guess because of his simplicity, dare I say, I dont blame him quite as much as I blame her. But at the end of the day, she is the winner. Still, a few folks went for it. Because Gary is so in tune with her emotions, he might have picked up on something in her tone or behind or eyes, and this distracted him so he didnt. Yet we love Selina because a.) 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She is everything that is bad about politics: no real vision or drive to lead via policy decisions. The Murder of Selena occured on March 31, 1995 after Selena was shot to death by Yolanda Saldivar (who was the president of her fan club) Selena's death received international attention and the public reaction to it was compared to those that followed the deaths of John Lennon, Elvis Presley and John F. Kennedy. Party leaders, looking for someone to beat the popular Laura Montez, turn to Jonah to run for President and throw their support behind him. "And you are a lifesaver, I couldn't have done it without you," she returned, surprising him with a hug. Thats actually kind of the perfect paring, if shes the ventriloquist and Im the dummy. MANDEL RESPONDS: He was shocked his personal pick, Amy, got no votes. For this scene they just bring up the day in which something happened. TVLINE | What was your reaction when you got the script and read the fight scene? 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