Below are abstractions of a true stories. One guy kept getting ahold of his prrsonal items somehow and got caught playing a saxophone in the barracks. He told me not to worry about it and say "no". The doctor who found it said it not a big deal and they will let me in . Free online program to promote the safety and well-being of military families. Press J to jump to the feed. SSG Sean Donahue - Though your verbiage is way bolder than mine (my post on this issue is above) I fully agree with you!!!! She wanted to get out so bad she went full retard, doing something dishonorable to get thrown out on a general discharge. Seems ridiculous that I had the surgery over a year ago and this is the only thing stopping me from getting processed in MEPs. The military is used to this, and they really don't care down the road. As a result, his history of mental health wasn't assessed by MEPS. Or just give up and wait for a couple of years? He. 21 years active duty,kept my mouth shut about stuff that just did not need to be amplified. Long story short, I broke my nose in December and had surgery to fix the break and take care of some sinus problems. I had the surgery in august of 2014. Right now, between your profile information and this post, you're what we like to call a "tool bag". Your Visit to MEPS All enlisted recruits are evaluated at MEPS Your recruiter helps prepare you for MEPS HELP!!! Everyone I know lied about something, he'll if everyone was honest about drug use there wouldn't be a military. Discomfort after surgery is minimal, and vision recovery usually takes place in 1 to 2 days. You should have had a post-op visit to measure refractions at 90 days post-op and then another 30 days after that visit.https://www.public.navy.mil/netc/centers/ceneoddive/ndstc/documents/manmed_chap15.pdf. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I would say lying at meps is a low risk high reward type of deal. If you struggle from any of the conditions mentioned below, it is a good idea to speak with a local U.S. Military recruiter. Do not lie, falsify, or hide information. Talk openly with your recruiter, MEPS staff, and your family. I don't suggest lying, but literally almost everyone I know of has lied about something. Is your condition a liability to yourself or others? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I haven't seriously considered joining a branch since my accident in 2003, but it still crosses my mind from time to time. For instance another friend went to meps and when he was doing the eye portion he was wearing contacts and the guy checking him didn't even notice. You need to provide all documents not just a cover letter or info sheet. Well today I reserved an 11x op 40 contract with plans to go to MEPS Tues/Wed. The lesson is that we need to make it impossible for people to lie. You will not be able to live the Army values and lead Soldiers in the future. Now they say I need more information such as previous eye prescription, doctors notes, and more. Major unions have lost court cases and in one instance suffered severe financial damage in the process. When I went to meps, I went into a room with a doctor, he made me strip down to my underwear and told me to slowly spin in a circle twice, so they will most likely notice any major scars. Lying will. You will never become a United States Marine. So what are the lessons from these stories? Shoulda been a dishonorable. This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. The suicide counselor recommended he also consider seeing his own counselor. Don't even mention the scar unless they ask then keep it minimal "that was just from when I was a kid" if they ask more "yeah I was biking and fell" simple is good. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. It will regenerate itself in about three to five days. This disorder was triggered in BMT from a previously undisclosed mental condition. You were torn and want to be honest. They need to have a psychologist evaluate everyone at meps. We lost quite a few, we were down to just a few of us by graduation. Nice guy and not pushy. LASIK Surgery Checklist. Now an MTI's recommendations are definitely considered, but they are really just a tiebreaker if the waiver authority is 50/50 on a case, and MTI's certainly do recommend separation sometimes. So you want to start a career founded on integrity by lying? Pretend now that either of these people had completed BMT without their prior Mental Health history ever evaluated. Lying at MEPS is punishable by a $10,000 fine and 5 years in prison. Lost the navigator slot and was made a C130 mechanic. Further, patients often don't ask what their diagnosis is--the patient is focused on their problems and not the administrivia in a medical record. It was not a mistake for being honest at MEPS, it was a mistake for being dishonest on the paperwork. How do you think they would perform in a deployment, or at a remote assignment like Turkey or Greenland, or if they married and their future spouse later divorced them? It happened to be depression and medication for it. My recruiter went the other direction, really stressed "Make sure you disclose EVERYTHING". In another month, his symptoms and concerns had mostly resolved, and his cousin was also much better. 2. Handle this the right way, as you should all things. Glad to hear eye stuff is routine. My ex, who was batshit crazy, probably Bi-polar and was on meds most of her teen life lied about it ALL at MEPs. Should I be honest with my recruiter and try to get a waiver? The young man did see another counselor in the same clinic, who identified several other stressors in his life, including moving away from home to begin college, worries about the cost of college, and a strong fear of public speaking. After boot camp is MCT where all Marines go regardless of MOS. He hadn't been "prescribed" an anti-depressant because he only took some medicine on a short, trial basis. So its been about 2 weeks now and have been too scared to talk to him. I was in the same spot. I know I have to be able to function without medication and I can, but have not been consistently been of the medication simply because of the existence of standardized tests should I lie to my recruiter and say that while I have such a prescription I have been off it for atleast the minimum time period states or should I be honest because in reality it doesnt take a long time to get off a medication completely atleast for ADHD medications which are stimulants and what they dont know wont hurt them because my ADHD does not really effect me much at all anymore. He was counseled, evaluated, and treated for EIA. One new winner* is announced every week! : r/USMCboot. #12. Further, he won't be able to enlist nor commission in any branch of the military ever again. I had lasik back in November and just had an enhancement to my left eye on Friday that I've been stressing about. 48.3k Members 151 Online Created Sep 13, 2012 Join Top posts december 6th 2015 Top posts of december, 2015 Top posts 2015 The doctor who found it said it not a big deal and they will let me in . The criminal background check and security clearance investigations can and do find sealed records. Always good advice. Maybe from 2001-2007 or so she could. I know a guy who lied about lasik because he didn't want to wait 6 months and nobody at meps found out. In bootcamp a kid had asthma and almost passed out going through the chicken road and he got kicked out for lying about his asthma, so I would be honest. If you can not look at yourself in the mirror in the morning it was the wrong decision. I don't want to waste the time of past professors and employers if it doesn't matter. Know all the risks and procedure limitations. Unless you know it's a legitimate issue that impairs your physical and/or mental ability to carry out your duties, don't say a thing. In my experience meps isn't that deep of a medical check and it's fairly disorganized. She went to the SGTs and the Chaplin professing that she lied at MEPs. Breaking subreddit rules may result in a ban from r/newtothenavy and r/navy. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. My gramma always told me I had to be able to look at myself in the mirror, and know that if I couldn't-- I wouldn't sleep well at night. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. Telling them what I told the recruiter and what he told me. why worry about it if it becomes a problem deal with it then. He stopped seeing the counselor after only 6 months from beginning counseling and successfully continued his college education. I had lasik about 6 months ago and the recruiter originally told me that all I would need is a letter filled out by the doctor. Do you think the risk of getting shit bags and future suicides is worth the chance that one of them might be decent? He said that there is a good chance that I could lose my op 40. I went through in 2011 after Lasik. First, psychiatrists, psychologists, and sometimes doctors might not directly tell their patients their actual diagnoses because of the stigma and fear surrounding Mental Health. 1. and was it a mistake for being honest at MEPS? john danaher instructional videos Online posts, including anonymous posts and posts made here on APC, have been used in lawsuits against unions. If I were you I would lie and say it's from a camping trip or something. Forgetting the medical side of this for a moment You must log in or register to reply here. Let's all throttle back a bit. Keratinous is NOT trifling; it is the major cause for corneal transplant in the US-a very expensive medical issue. This comment has been overwritten by this open source script to protect this user's privacy. May 14, 2016 Just a note, if you decide to lie about it, you need to be sure that you won't let it slip sometime later. Put me in the disqualified for medical category. MEPS consult will do the corneal mapping, so no, we don't just guess at the diagnosis. Don't they pull your medical records, or did this happen after they checked? These include conditions like depression, bipolar disorder, epilepsy, heart issues, Asperger's, and PTSD. Haven't met a personw ho didn't lie. What will you do at PI or San Diego when the withdrawal symptoms hit? Obviously I will tell them about my felony charge. This isn't the place, and you aren't the expert. Know preoperative, operative, and postoperative . Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. On the way to Meps we got a call from the Chief who asked us if we had ever been asked to lie, had criminal charges etc. It is best that you speak with your recruiter and explain that you failed to mention it as your doctor told you it was not an issue. MEPS, Eye Exam, and Lasik It is against the APC Forum Rules to advocate any labor action which is not authorized by the RLA/NMB. However, herein lies the problem. Meps to Meps transfer of record/file, how long does it take? One of the worst things in the world is getting a fraudulent enlistment discharge after making it through 2 months of boot. If you are denied entry to the military, it is very possibly the best thing for both you and the government. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. About 3 years before joining the Air Force, his cousin attempted suicide. She could have been honest about her history and told the Recruiter, who would have told MEPS, who would have requested a waiver, and she would have had a chance at a waiver by doing some additional evaluation. Do you think that they would have been able to successfully cope with these circumstances following the earlier problems? They don't understand this stuff. For information regarding Navy enlisted ratings, see [Twisky's Rating Information Guide] (https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/). Generally speaking, no. Option 1: Being truthful and working a waiver that is doable. So ur saying stay off the pills for 90 days and I doesnt come up?how? They'll simply deny him enlistment and move-on. You may need further evaluation or counseling before you can live a rigorous military lifestyle. If they don't find anything during their examinations, you should be good to go. Finally, he was incorrectly interpreting the questions from his recruiter and MEPS to what he believed his own history was. Talk openly with your recruiter, MEPS staff, and your family. You probably dont even have ADHD because they hand out those diagnoses to kids like Candy. Please don't sabotage your own union's efforts on your behalf. There's been zero issues from the surgery and was absolutely necessary as I couldn't do more than 10 pushups without the wrist being in terrible pain. I am going into the marines and have a contract to go to security school where you need a TS if you complete it. A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. So I was told to go into his office and asked me if I was lying about any paperwork and that is there anything I didn't disclose with my recruiter or if I have done drugs. Integrity is what you do or how you act when no one is watching. My gramma always told me I had to be able to look at myself in the mirror, and know that if I couldn't-- I wouldn't sleep well at night. Quite a few of the guys in my squadron had a screw lose. He was only talking to a counselor because his cousin needed help and he wanted to support her as best he could. Press J to jump to the feed. Should I lie at MEPS and if so will I likely get caught? Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Do not encourage lying. A bunch of others told me to just play dumb . (January 6, 2021, subversive for attending the rally - not me, but a friend). The purpose of this script is to help protect users from doxing, stalking, and harassment. Lying at MEPS about medical or mental health history is a really bad idea with serious consequences, as stated on the Army enlistment contract you sign. It is against the APC Forum Rules to advocate any labor action which is not authorized by the RLA/NMB. This is for prior service and new applicants. Anyways I called him a few weeks ago telling him I am interested. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. ; and he asked my friend if he had ever smoked pot. For both, it's to ensure that only qualified candidates enlist. A slight delay in schedule will not change your end game. My knees were pretty well shot after 4 years active 11B. Okay, so I need some advice. If I go back to my doctor and ask them to fill it out with the actual dates (even though its not exactly on the mark of '90 days'), will it be a waste of time to send back to MEPS, maybe with a statement attached? AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. I lied at meps . She could have been honest about her history and told the Recruiter, who would have told MEPS. Currently trying to fill out a packet for OCS, but my recruiter informed me that meps declined my medical history. If the answer is YES, congrats shipmates just got injured or even died on your watch. KUDOS! They are looking for consistency". Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Not disclosing information at MEPS - Advice Needed. Station commander looked at my medical paperwork and said word-for-word: " You stick to the script. I am perfectly health for Army service and will be telling hte MEPS doctors that *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. from USMCboot. Though my friend told me his exam consisted of a puff eye test, exam for glaucoma screening. They do that at the School of Infantry. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. Then I met his boss; Sub-station commander. I was honest at MEPS. Seriously folks, stop with the medical determinations. You must log in or register to reply here. Then to delete your comments, simply click on your username on Reddit, go to the comments tab, scroll down as far as possible (hint: use RES), and hit the new OVERWRITE button at the top. That's just the way it happens. As a reminder, this subreddit is for civil discussion. Maybe mental health evaluations should be more thorough, the guys with physical problems that the Army didn't know about got found out because they were being physically pushed but the mental nutjobsthey didn't get found out til they got to their unit. Thanks! You might think to yourself, "How could he not know that he needed to disclose this information?" After a long conversation with my doc he said there is no way for them to find out unless you tell them. I just finished MEPS after having LASIK.I had to provide all medical documentation from the surgery (pre-op, post-op information, etc.) And yet when the recruiter tells them to lie so he doesn't have to do paperwork they always believe him that no one will find out. For every one of these little vignettes there is an outstanding Soldier, Sailor, Airperson or Marine that said "No" when asked, and is out there doing outstanding shit. Can You Fix a Lie on Your SF-86 Questionnaire? I got both of these surgeries in order to be a seal, and would fucking hate if the reason I can't get in are the very surgeries I got in order to qualify for training. Press J to jump to the feed. The girl with the suicide attempt would not be allowed to enlist today though. Know how to find the right doctor. Your Recruiter will not be the one getting in troubleit will be you. This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. Learning has occurred - give it time to sink in. 03-10-09, 06:54 PM #10. redsox1804. Know what makes you a poor candidate. Take the advice and think on it. If they ask, tell them it's a scar from when you were a kid. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. TL; DR Anyone with experience of LASIK eye surgery documentation sent to MEPS. Option 2: Lie. It is not the recruiters job to get you into the military, nor is it MEPS' job to disqualify you. Never got caught. ), Arborry Hill Road Company, LLC Copyright 2006-2023, Service Academy Forums is a registered trademark of Arborry Hill Road Company, LLC. You're still not getting it. Lying on your SF-86 is an aspect of personal conduct, and deliberately falsifying or omitting information prevents investigators from getting the full picture of who you are and how you have conducted yourself thus far. What is the biggest lie you have ever told or been told, The following errors occurred with your submission. Does MEPS pull your military medical records. I lied at meps . The TI took it away from him and then a few days later he got ahold of it again and was playing the thing on the ledge outside the window on the 3rd floor of the barracks. Last I knew, which granted was probably close to a decade ago, it was strictly forbiddenonly PRK was allowed. I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didnt they found it at meps . My 90 day period was more like 2 months, because that's when they called me back for a followup, so it wouldn't have made sense (distance traveled and financially) to go back a month later for a '90 day' followup. Dont lie. Let's Talk 3..e-mail: nathaliemunoz@live.comSubject "Let's Talk" you can send me anything you want from any topic!Previous LET'S TALK:1. https://goo.gl/jim. Processing Stations (MEPS) Your visit to a Military Entrance Processing Station (MEPS) determines your mental aptitude, as well as physical and moral qualifications for enlistment in the Army. I was completely honest and I served honorably for 8 years. Its in your best interest to get through MEPS. How do recruiters get medical records to MEPS for a med read? Thanks for the details. I didn't mention it at the physical, everything when fine. I think the lesson here is not to tell people to disclose everything, becausethey won't. Stuck waiting for MEPS to process my info from Military to Military as well as MEPS to MEPS. See TheBeneGesseritWitch's guide on Paths to become an Officer. Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! Any help would be appreciated. So now I have to play stupid as if nothing happened at MEPS but clearly they know I said something at MEPS. Own this and you may be surprised, if nothing else you will have evolved as a man. Am I? Accidentally or on purpose are applicable. Its like a doctor told my dad he was going to need immediate knee surgery. Instead, she had abysmal chances for waiver approval because she never got the additional examination needed for a waiver (plus lying isn't helpful to a case), so she was separated despite the recommendation of her MTI. For some reason the Pacific breeze didnt reach that area. If it had been correctly disclosed, he likely would have required a waiver and additional counseling before joining the Air Force. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. Unfortunately, she needed to go to sick call several times for persistent coughing. When I went to MEPs, like most people, I had something to lie about. Personally, go find another doctor that is ex-military that can weed through the BS. The flap is then placed back into its original position. I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Im in the same boat, the waiver is an easy one as long as you have a doctors note saying youre fine to be off medication, and being successful for 1-3 years off the medication. So do you think the cost is worth the benefit? See Article 83 UCMJ. Applicants often need further evaluation or counseling before they can live the rigorous and stressful military lifestyle. He said the tests they do would not notice the lasik scar it's only if you tell them you had lasik that they do more in depth tests if there's any issues. 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